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how can i go race in a road course?

Last post 06-02-2008, 9:58 PM by loudes13. 9 replies.
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  •  05-28-2008, 1:02 PM 302699

    how can i go race in a road course?

    Hi, I've been autocrossing for the last 2 years and now I'm trying to get into road course racing. Whats the first step to take? Someone told me last year that I have to take 2 different classes to get a racing license and go from there. If this is true, where can I sign up for these classes or where can I find more details? On the SCCA website I can only find the forms but I don't think its gonna be that easy to obtain a racing license.
  •  05-28-2008, 1:26 PM 302702 in reply to 302699

    Re: how can i go race in a road course?

    Do an on-track HPDE (High Performance Driver's Education) first.

    Prep is minimal (like autocross), you get an in car instructor.

    You get seat time.

    Later in the day, as you progress, you may be allowed to run close to other folks (so you get the feel of wheel to wheel).

    After you have moved up through a couple HPDE's, you will know if you want to go truely wheel to wheel.

     

    Most major tracks have schools at them that are "sanctioned" as the requirement for getting you license.  This would be right after your HPDE's.

     

    The reason I suggest HPDE's is I know several talented drivers who have done great at HPDE's and at what used to be SOLO1, but as soon as they got wheel to wheel, they realized it wasn't for them.  It is cheaper by a long shot to figure it out before you invest a ton of money in your care, Personnel Safety Equipment, and schools for Licensing, only to find out it wasn;t what you expected.

     

    Best regards,

    Kevin


    94 Audi S4 (not stock)
    85 Bertone x19 (18k orig miles)
    85 Bertone x19 (DSP car)
  •  05-28-2008, 11:35 PM 302821 in reply to 302702

    Re: how can i go race in a road course?

    how can i find the closest hpde and more details as to requirements etc.
  •  05-29-2008, 12:45 AM 302823 in reply to 302821

    Re: how can i go race in a road course?

    Your scca region most likely has a licensing person. Contact them to get direct help. Get a GCR.
  •  05-29-2008, 7:43 AM 302829 in reply to 302821

    Re: how can i go race in a road course?

    NASA

    CarGuys

    PCA

    BMWCCA

    etc...

    Or contact your local track.

     

    Where are you?

     

    --k


    94 Audi S4 (not stock)
    85 Bertone x19 (18k orig miles)
    85 Bertone x19 (DSP car)
  •  05-29-2008, 12:15 PM 302859 in reply to 302829

    Re: how can i go race in a road course?

    Philadelphia, PA
  •  05-30-2008, 8:08 AM 303006 in reply to 302859

    Re: how can i go race in a road course?

  •  06-01-2008, 8:02 PM 303311 in reply to 302859

    Re: how can i go race in a road course?

    there are HPDE events (High Performance Driving School) at Summit Point, WV. There's contact information at summitpoint-raceway.com. Check into a FATT event (Fridays at the Track).
    Carrie
    '89 STS2 CRX Si (Thanks Ian!)
    '88 STS2 CRX Si (it's heeeeee---eeere!)
    '93 ES MR2 in L1 on occaision (Thanks Jerry!)
  •  06-02-2008, 9:41 PM 303560 in reply to 303311

    Re: how can i go race in a road course?

    Here's what I did

    1. Ran local autocross for 6 years.

    2. Ran PDX's.  First year 1, then 2, then 2.

    3. Bought a cheap ITC Civic this winter.

    4. Took the 2 day Great Lakes SCCA school at Nelson ledges, this is all the school you need.  you don't have to pay some professional school thousands of dollars to get a license.

    5. Completing the 2 day school, I have a novice license, I can enter regional events

    6. I finished my first regional race this weekend at mid-ohio.  Didn't hit anyone, tried to get up to speed and stay out of the way.

    7. One more regional race and I can apply for a full regional license. At that point I can enter any regional race.

    I agree that it is a good idea to do a couple of PDX's.  Road racing is quite different from autocross.  there is a lot less to do, or at least a similar amount to do, but lots more time to do it.  and you do it a lot more times.  You might enjoy it.  Or you might not.  And that's just the driving part. 

    Contrary to what someone said above, a PDX will not give you any idea at all if you enjoy racing with other cars on track.  At an SCCA PDX you will be pointing cars by or vice versa, there will be no real passing.  If you want to know about that, go to a local Kart track and see if you like getting bumped around and having fast people push you out of the way like yesterday's garbage.  :)  That's how you are going to feel your first road race.

    The key for me is that I have enjoyed each of the things I've done.  I like autocrossing.  I like pdx.  I like driving the racecar.  I like racing against other people.  I really hated for the race to end yesterday because every lap was a new learning experience.  But I count myself lucky.  I could have spent thousands of dollars before realizing I didn't enjoy racing with other people.  You might not like it.  That doesn't make you a loser, but you might just not racing.  I don't like playing golf against competitive aholes.  So I don't do it.  I like playing golf, just not against aholes.  You might like driving the car on a road course, you might no like having other people trying to put you down.  I don't mind it on track so far.

    I do agree that you should not spend too much money until you are sure you will enjoy wheel to wheel racing.  Granted, you won't know you don't like it until you are sliding backward off track sometime, but try to keep it cheap until you know.  Rent if you can.  Or buy something cheap and reliable.  Some people want to go real fast right off the bat.  20k ITS car, etc.  I'd like to go fast too, but maybe in a couple of years.  I'd rather find out if this is really something I enjoy in a $3,500 civic than a 20k bmw.

    Get the David Gran book.  Read it, think for yourself, but he's right, you can race on whatever budget you choose. 

    jim 

    ITC Civic

    WOR SCCA

     

     

  •  06-02-2008, 9:58 PM 303562 in reply to 303560

    Re: how can i go race in a road course?

    First do HPDE's. When you're ready for the dedicated car get your race license with either scca or nasa.

    allen
    SpecMiata
    other thingy's
    www.allenskillicorn.com
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