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New to EP, question about brakes

Last post 01-25-2008, 10:27 PM by Steve Hoelscher. 5 replies.
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  •  01-22-2008, 12:31 PM 281570

    New to EP, question about brakes

    I've read every word of the rules, it seems that I can use any solid rear axle, hubs, shafts, discs, drums, calipers, etc. The only limitation is the brakes mus stay either inboard or outboard. What does that mean?

     

    Also, the rules do not specifically say I can swap from drums to discs. Is this allowed?


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  •  01-22-2008, 1:20 PM 281581 in reply to 281570

    Re: New to EP, question about brakes

    wiley:

    I've read every word of the rules, it seems that I can use any solid rear axle, hubs, shafts, discs, drums, calipers, etc. The only limitation is the brakes mus stay either inboard or outboard. What does that mean?

    Also, the rules do not specifically say I can swap from drums to discs. Is this allowed?

    Outboard brakes are the most common.  Outboard means the disks or drums are located with the wheel mounting hub and hub carrier and are un-sprung (ie: carried by the suspension).   In board brakes are most common on independant suspensions and have the disks or drums mounted with the differential (one on each side) on the chassis and are therefore, sprung.  The CV axles (or half shafts) run from the brake disk/drum out to the hub and hub carrier which is the unsprung portion of the suspension. 

    For a more simple illustration, consider a Miata as having "outboard" rear brakes.  If they were "inboard" they would be mounted between the inner CV joint and the differential. 

    The E-Type Jag used inboard rear brakes.

    Also, when the rules specifies you can use "any disk or drum" that assumes if you have drums, you can use a disk in its place.  It does say "any disk".


    Steve Hoelscher
    #27 DP - Toyota MR2
    2006 DP National Champion
    '98, '99, '00, '02 DSP National Champion
    http://www.terriehoward.com
  •  01-22-2008, 3:23 PM 281606 in reply to 281581

    Re: New to EP, question about brakes

    Steve, can one swap the brakes from the outside of the hub, to the inside of the hub?  IE: from Mazda Miata location to Lotus Elan location?

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  •  01-22-2008, 3:46 PM 281610 in reply to 281606

    Re: New to EP, question about brakes

    modernbeat:
    Steve, can one swap the brakes from the outside of the hub, to the inside of the hub?  IE: from Mazda Miata location to Lotus Elan location?

     

    I don't see why not.  Both the Lotus and Miata have "outboard" brakes.  If the hub carrier is free and the brakes are free, where the brakes mount in relation to the hub carrier doesn't matter as long as they are "un-sprung" at the outter end of the half shaft.


    Steve Hoelscher
    #27 DP - Toyota MR2
    2006 DP National Champion
    '98, '99, '00, '02 DSP National Champion
    http://www.terriehoward.com
  •  01-25-2008, 2:06 PM 282121 in reply to 281610

    Re: New to EP, question about brakes

    I understand, it's logic:

    any drum or disc  (interchangeable)

    vs.

    any drum or any disc   (not interchangeable)

     Thanks for the help.


    CENLA Member
  •  01-25-2008, 10:27 PM 282193 in reply to 282121

    Re: New to EP, question about brakes

    wiley:

    any drum or disc  (interchangeable)

    vs.

    any drum or any disc   (not interchangeable)

    "any drum or disk"  doesn't differentiate between the two.  Drum or disk is the list of options available under "any".   If they were not interchangeable it would state specifically that the type may not be changed.


    Steve Hoelscher
    #27 DP - Toyota MR2
    2006 DP National Champion
    '98, '99, '00, '02 DSP National Champion
    http://www.terriehoward.com
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