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2009 Nationals and Pro Finale moving?
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07-18-2008, 9:35 PM |
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adhowe70
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Re: 2009 Nationals and Pro Finale? Not only where but when?
^ Talk to the NWR folks that have the same drive as the CA folks and enjoyed a snowy event in April. Lose, lose.
SM ~ '96 Subaru Impreza Old Car: A Stock ~ 2000 Honda S2000
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07-18-2008, 10:12 PM |
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sjrife
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Re: 2009 Nationals and Pro Finale? Not only where but when?
mwood:
Yeah, Blytheville is an idyllic spot...just ask the 25% of the population that has fled the town over the last 5 years, due to no jobs and high crime rates...
OK, I'm just pissed because you guys are all supporting a spot which is a frickin' long way from where I am...and, the only ones who seem to support the site seem to live relatively close by...hmmm, maybe there's some type of correlation, there...
We ain't lookin' for jobs, we're lookin' for a place to autocross.
I understand the concern about distance, but I don't think we're exactly getting knocked down with options..
Steve Rife ETRSCCA
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07-18-2008, 10:49 PM |
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Lynn
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Re: 2009 Nationals and Pro Finale? Not only where but when?
Bad news for you Starbucks fans. The Blytheville store is on the hit list.
2002 Mercedes C230k, retired, 2005 Nationals STU DFL
1969 Beach Solo Vee and 1985 Lynx B Solo Vee
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07-18-2008, 11:11 PM |
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snaponbob
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Re: 2009 Nationals and Pro Finale? Not only where but when?
sjrife: mwood:
Yeah, Blytheville is an idyllic spot...just ask the 25% of the population that has fled the town over the last 5 years, due to no jobs and high crime rates...
OK, I'm just pissed because you guys are all supporting a spot which is a frickin' long way from where I am...and, the only ones who seem to support the site seem to live relatively close by...hmmm, maybe there's some type of correlation, there...
We ain't lookin' for jobs, we're lookin' for a place to autocross.
I understand the concern about distance, but I don't think we're exactly getting knocked down with options..
Exactly. There is damn near nothing west of Topeka until one looks into the mountains or further west. Frankly, I am amazed that Las Vegas Speedway is not on the wish list. Look, this is boiling down to have SOMEWHERE that is REASONABLY centered in the USA for Solo Nationals. Topeka is geographically terrific --------------- if one wants to play Russian Roulette in a sand box.
Bob Buxbaum Lee's Summit, Mo.
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07-18-2008, 11:41 PM |
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modernbeat
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Re: 2009 Nationals and Pro Finale? Not only where but when?
adhowe70:^ Talk to the NWR folks that have the same drive as the CA folks and enjoyed a snowy event in April. Lose, lose. 
Eh. You guys have 20 Stage Rallys per year within 300 miles of Seattle.
Aut tace aut loquere meliora silentio.
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07-19-2008, 12:15 AM |
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07-19-2008, 11:23 AM |
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John V
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Re: 2009 Nationals and Pro Finale? Not only where but when?
Blytheville saves us a couple hundred miles. Still, I think about how far it is for someone from seattle (2300 miles-ish). That's like us driving to Las Vegas.
If nationals were in Las Vegas, I wouldn't go. Unless I could fly in for a co-drive.
John Vitamvas '04 Z06 '00 Boxster S (For Sale)
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07-19-2008, 10:57 PM |
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mwood
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Re: 2009 Nationals and Pro Finale? Not only where but when?
John V:
Blytheville saves us a couple hundred miles. Still, I think about how far it is for someone from seattle (2300 miles-ish). That's like us driving to Las Vegas.
If nationals were in Las Vegas, I wouldn't go. Unless I could fly in for a co-drive.
Therein lies the rub...to paraphrase Will Shakespeare...
If Nationals requires either coast to make a 2000 mile plus tow, it won't end up being "Nationals" in anything other than name, ultimately. But, if we're talking about making one coast tow that distance, it makes much more sense to hold Nationals in the southwest to at least provide a more consistent climate and maximize odds of having dry weather...so, Nevada or Utah (Las Vegas, Wendover, SLC/Miller Motorsports Park), Arizona (Phoenix/Tucson), New Mexico (I wonder...), Texas all make more sense than Blytheville, AR...the fact that all of those states are 1000 miles closer to me has nothing to do with my opinion...
In slow, out fast. In fast, out backwards.
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07-21-2008, 1:32 PM |
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gary p
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Re: 2009 Nationals and Pro Finale? Not only where but when?
John V:
Blytheville saves us a couple hundred miles. Still, I think about how far it is for someone from seattle (2300 miles-ish)...
Seattle is a long way from every possible location other than Seattle. You could conceiveably host the Nationals on the West Coast and still have a 1200 mile tow for the Seattle crew (San Diego).
Phoenix or Las Vegas? Please. That's like the east--coast guys suggesting Atlanta or Pittsburgh.
Once you go Mac, you never go back!
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07-21-2008, 1:55 PM |
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Re: 2009 Nationals and Pro Finale? Not only where but when?
gary p:
That's like the east--coast guys suggesting Atlanta or Pittsburgh.
Now you're talking!
....just kidding Mike.
Ted 2004 Z16/Z06 SS
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07-21-2008, 2:26 PM |
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Re: 2009 Nationals and Pro Finale? Not only where but when?
You guys just need to move to Kansas so you'll be more centrally located.  Dave G.
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07-21-2008, 4:13 PM |
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Re: 2009 Nationals and Pro Finale? Not only where but when?
talon95:You guys just need to move to Kansas so you'll be more centrally located.  Dave G.
Been there, done that, don't want to do it again. (I lived at Forbes when it was an active base...) I'm not a big fan of hail storms and tornados
Keith '90 Miata with a really big roll bar www.chaserace.com www.tightntidyracing.com www.vorschlag.com
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07-21-2008, 6:10 PM |
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Andy Hollis
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Re: 2009 Nationals and Pro Finale? Not only where but when?
motoring: I'm not a big fan of hail storms and tornados
You prefer depressing overcast and drizzle, nine months of the year? 
--Andy
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07-21-2008, 6:19 PM |
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Re: 2009 Nationals and Pro Finale? Not only where but when?
They sell more sunglasses per person in Seattle than any other city in the US... because we can't find them the next time the sun comes out... It really isn't THAT bad here, we don't have stretches of 91 consecutive days of rain every year...
Keith '90 Miata with a really big roll bar www.chaserace.com www.tightntidyracing.com www.vorschlag.com
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07-21-2008, 7:43 PM |
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mwood
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Re: 2009 Nationals and Pro Finale? Not only where but when?
I'll tell you what...when the sun IS out in Seattle, there are few prettier places in these United States of America 
Of course, we're not talkin' Topeka-class pretty...
In slow, out fast. In fast, out backwards.
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07-21-2008, 8:28 PM |
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Re: 2009 Nationals and Pro Finale? Not only where but when?
The locals don't have an opinion, we have been pummeled about the head and sholders for saying what we think. So saying that I'm ready for some more pummeling. I think that the city and state should have invested 25 percent of the money that was earmarked for HPT and instead built a perminant site over at forbes where land was earmarked for us.
I don't have solid numbers to prove it but I believe that the economic impact to the city is much higher for the solo nat's than it is for the runoffs. The majority of the solo competitors stay at the local hotels and we use the resteraunts and the expocenter for all of the banquets.
Ron Williams Multi-time national champion---ship trophy winner
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07-21-2008, 8:37 PM |
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ron
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Re: 2009 Nationals and Pro Finale? Not only where but when?
sorry about the four extra post the site did some funky thing and I had to start again and don't know how the multiple post happened.
Ron Williams Multi-time national champion---ship trophy winner
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07-21-2008, 9:19 PM |
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gary p
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Re: 2009 Nationals and Pro Finale? Not only where but when?
ron:
sorry about the four extra post the site did some funky thing and I had to start again and don't know how the multiple post happened.
No worry, its just four more pummelings for you.
Once you go Mac, you never go back!
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07-22-2008, 12:11 PM |
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Re: 2009 Nationals and Pro Finale? Not only where but when?
Could do something like what is done for the Canadian nationals.
Have it in the "east-central" US one year, then in the "west-central" the following. If a contract is required - sign up for a similar 3 year term but alternating.
Sure, a lot could happen in the 6 year timeframe - but at least it would equal out the "screwing."
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07-22-2008, 12:37 PM |
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Re: 2009 Nationals and Pro Finale? Not only where but when?
mwood:
I'll tell you what...when the sun IS out in Seattle, there are few prettier places in these United States of America 
Of course, we're not talkin' Topeka-class pretty...
Your talking Baby Dolls pretty right? 
Alex Jones 2007 A-Street Prepared GXP www.CrazyMonkeyRacing.com
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