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ErikZ06:

Julia,

That picture shows a splitter not conforming to the rules, but Vic may have trimmed things down since that picture. 

Erik

Agreed:

 M. Front splitters are allowed and shall be installed parallel to the ground (within +/-3 degrees fore to aft) and may extend a maximum of 6 inches forward of the front bodywork/fascia as viewed from above. Splitters may not extend rearward past the centerline of the front wheels. No portion of the splitter may extend beyond the widest part of the front bumper/fascia as viewed from above.

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Patrick Washburn
STU Evo
www.winghats.com

Thanx guys.  This answers my questions and I am going to use approach A from my first post.

 

Julia 

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Julia Aebersold
97 SM
97 Supra Turbo

It's actually hard to tell in the picture of Vic's car as it is a bad angle.   You'd really need to look at it from above, as the bodywork right at the splitter might be farther in than above. 

-Andy M.

boxboy:

It's actually hard to tell in the picture of Vic's car as it is a bad angle.   You'd really need to look at it from above, as the bodywork right at the splitter might be farther in than above. 

-Andy M.

Thanks Andy ;-)

Some of you guys need to apply for the SMAC, we could have used the different points of views you all have. ;-)

So when we wrote this (cough) LAME rule my car was the only one with a real splitter. So when I envisioned the rule as we wrote it I was thinking of B and MAYBE even C, But for sure NOT A. A is reading WAY to much into it. With B you could take a ruler and go to any point of the bumper/facia and measure 6" out on any part of the FRONT bumper. DONE! I guess we need to clarify this officially.
 

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Vic Sias
650-704-0771

siastuning:

...So when I envisioned the rule as we wrote it I was thinking of B and MAYBE even C, But for sure NOT A. ... I guess we need to clarify this officially.
 

 Go for it. D-Mod, E-Mod and X-Prepared all use the exact same language. I'd ASSUME that a clarification of the language used for SM would apply equally to the other classes that used the same phrase in their ruleset. I could use a pancake spatual splitter on the front of the Europa.

Vic, what do I have to do to make sure you are on the protest committee?

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Aut tace aut loquere meliora silentio.

siastuning:

boxboy:

It's actually hard to tell in the picture of Vic's car as it is a bad angle.   You'd really need to look at it from above, as the bodywork right at the splitter might be farther in than above. 

-Andy M.

Thanks Andy ;-)

Some of you guys need to apply for the SMAC, we could have used the different points of views you all have. ;-)

So when we wrote this (cough) LAME rule my car was the only one with a real splitter. So when I envisioned the rule as we wrote it I was thinking of B and MAYBE even C, But for sure NOT A. A is reading WAY to much into it. With B you could take a ruler and go to any point of the bumper/facia and measure 6" out on any part of the FRONT bumper. DONE! I guess we need to clarify this officially.
 

 

Well, the plot thickens.  I guess I won't go cutting just yet...   Thanx for the history Vic.

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Julia Aebersold
97 SM
97 Supra Turbo

I spoke with Doug Gill last Friday and pointed out the discussion and various interpretations of the rule.  Per my request he will be sending all of various interpretations and the discussion on this thread to the SEB where they will render a clarification.

 

Julia 

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Julia Aebersold
97 SM
97 Supra Turbo

Julia, the SMAC did discuss this on our last conference call and had a suggested clarification for the SEB.   Without rewriting the rule more specifically, all we can really do is suggest a minor rewording that could possibly result in something more like "B", which was the majority view on the SMAC. 

 -Andy M.

Thank you Andy.  I'm glad to hear the ball is already rolling.  Maybe a small rewording could entail the following.

Front splitters are allowed and shall be installed parallel to the ground (within +/-3 degrees fore to aft) and may extend a maximum of 6 inches measured forward and radially from the front bodywork/fascia as viewed from above. Splitters may not extend rearward past the centerline of the front wheels. No portion of the splitter may extend beyond the widest part of the front bumper/fascia as viewed from above.

 

Julia 

 

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Julia Aebersold
97 SM
97 Supra Turbo

Here's a version with a couple less words:

 

Front splitters are allowed and shall be installed parallel to the ground (within +/-3 degrees fore to aft) and may extend a maximum of 6 inches perpendicular from the front bodywork/fascia as viewed from above. Splitters may not extend rearward past the centerline of the front wheels. No portion of the splitter may extend beyond the widest part of the front bumper/fascia as viewed from above.

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Patrick Washburn
STU Evo
www.winghats.com

siastuning:

Some of you guys need to apply for the SMAC...

No kidding. :)

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Randy Noll

Here is one in support of "C".

 M. Front splitters are allowed and shall be installed parallel to the ground (within +/-3 degrees fore to aft) and may extend a maximum of 6 inches forward of the frontmost portion of the bodywork/fascia as viewed from above. Splitters may not extend rearward past the centerline of the front wheels. No portion of the splitter may extend beyond the widest part of the front bumper/fascia as viewed from above.

And here is a new idea:

 M. Front splitters are allowed and shall be installed parallel to the ground (within +/-3 degrees fore to aft) and may extend a maximum of 6 inches forward of the frontmost portion of the front bodywork/fascia as viewed from above. Splitters may not extend rearward past the centerline of the front wheels. No portion of the splitter may extend beyond the widest part of the front bumper/fascia or front wheel/tire as viewed from above (which ever is wider).

I like that one best!!

EVOlutionary:

Here is one in support of "C".

 M. Front splitters are allowed and shall be installed parallel to the ground (within +/-3 degrees fore to aft) and may extend a maximum of 6 inches forward of the frontmost portion of the bodywork/fascia as viewed from above. Splitters may not extend rearward past the centerline of the front wheels. No portion of the splitter may extend beyond the widest part of the front bumper/fascia as viewed from above.

And here is a new idea:

 M. Front splitters are allowed and shall be installed parallel to the ground (within +/-3 degrees fore to aft) and may extend a maximum of 6 inches forward of the frontmost portion of the front bodywork/fascia as viewed from above. Splitters may not extend rearward past the centerline of the front wheels. No portion of the splitter may extend beyond the widest part of the front bumper/fascia or front wheel/tire as viewed from above (which ever is wider).

I like that one best!!

 

I'm not sure "C" is going to fly for Doug mentioned that the SEB was concerned about foot safety for people.

 

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Julia Aebersold
97 SM
97 Supra Turbo

jaebers:

EVOlutionary:

Here is one in support of "C".

 M. Front splitters are allowed and shall be installed parallel to the ground (within +/-3 degrees fore to aft) and may extend a maximum of 6 inches forward of the frontmost portion of the bodywork/fascia as viewed from above. Splitters may not extend rearward past the centerline of the front wheels. No portion of the splitter may extend beyond the widest part of the front bumper/fascia as viewed from above.

And here is a new idea:

 M. Front splitters are allowed and shall be installed parallel to the ground (within +/-3 degrees fore to aft) and may extend a maximum of 6 inches forward of the frontmost portion of the front bodywork/fascia as viewed from above. Splitters may not extend rearward past the centerline of the front wheels. No portion of the splitter may extend beyond the widest part of the front bumper/fascia or front wheel/tire as viewed from above (which ever is wider).

I like that one best!!

 

I'm not sure "C" is going to fly for Doug mentioned that the SEB was concerned about foot safety for people.

 

Really? Maybe he needs to look at wings and eye-safety. 

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Aut tace aut loquere meliora silentio.

modernbeat:

jaebers:

EVOlutionary:

Here is one in support of "C".

 M. Front splitters are allowed and shall be installed parallel to the ground (within +/-3 degrees fore to aft) and may extend a maximum of 6 inches forward of the frontmost portion of the bodywork/fascia as viewed from above. Splitters may not extend rearward past the centerline of the front wheels. No portion of the splitter may extend beyond the widest part of the front bumper/fascia as viewed from above.

And here is a new idea:

 M. Front splitters are allowed and shall be installed parallel to the ground (within +/-3 degrees fore to aft) and may extend a maximum of 6 inches forward of the frontmost portion of the front bodywork/fascia as viewed from above. Splitters may not extend rearward past the centerline of the front wheels. No portion of the splitter may extend beyond the widest part of the front bumper/fascia or front wheel/tire as viewed from above (which ever is wider).

I like that one best!!

 

I'm not sure "C" is going to fly for Doug mentioned that the SEB was concerned about foot safety for people.

 

Really? Maybe he needs to look at wings and eye-safety. 

 

Just quotin' the man.... 

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Julia Aebersold
97 SM
97 Supra Turbo

I talked with Doug Gill and he said a clarification will be coming out in the next month's Fastrack.

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Julia Aebersold
97 SM
97 Supra Turbo

It isn't a very lengthy clarification.  Just added the word "from" the body.  Implication is that you can be 6" from the body in any direction until you hit the "no wider than..." part.  That should put you at "B" at the beginning of the thread.  As long as you can draw a line from the edge of the splitter and hit the "as viewed from above" body line within 6", you are OK.

 

-Andy M.

Yep.  I agree with you that it implies "B".

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Julia Aebersold
97 SM
97 Supra Turbo

Well I am sure glad I decided to look at this thread again.  tore up my old splitter and was going to make a new one.  Son of a gun if my old one would not have met "B" anyway. 

Hold my beer I got some work to do.

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