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Hold up on Shelby Conversions (New 2008 Bullitt specs Released)
Last post 10-18-2008, 10:51 AM by Bucketlist. 115 replies.
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Re: Hold up on Shelby Conversions (New 2008 Bullitt specs Released)
Well, the 4 vs. 6 gauges thing is mis-leading. That's the difference between a Deluxe and Premium package starter car. There are Shelby's that do not have Volt and oil pressure gauges, and one that do. There are GT's that do and GT's that don't. So you can get a standard GT with "6 gauges". That's not different.
As for the redline, and the markings on the tach. The car will have a slightly changed redline as part of the FR1 power pack. The same tuning the Shelby has. However, the tach won't change, because the rev-limiter is barely moved (the way it comes in is the biggest change). Shelby's don't have a different than stock tach, I highly doubt the Bullitt will. It could, but I highly doubt it.
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Re: Hold up on Shelby Conversions (New 2008 Bullitt specs Released)
Here's what I got:
"6500 RPM redline due to a different crank pulley dampener..."
He's going to drive it today and let me know where 2nd tops out, with the stock tires.
In slow, out fast. In fast, out backwards.
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Re: Hold up on Shelby Conversions (New 2008 Bullitt specs Released)
I'm just saying I don't buy it. The rev-limiter is set by the factory, and re-set by the calibration in the FR1 power pack, which I'm familiar with since I've been driving a car all year with it. Frankly, the stock tires are SO TALL, that he'll be over 70 mph before he hits the limiter, my GT does that without the FR1 pack. And knowing how fast you are going is still a guess. The speedometer numbers are far to crowded to know at a glance, and they are only marked (and marked in very tiny size) in 5 mph increments.
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Re: Hold up on Shelby Conversions (New 2008 Bullitt specs Released)
 01 FS Z28:I'm just saying I don't buy it. The rev-limiter is set by the factory, and re-set by the calibration in the FR1 power pack, which I'm familiar with since I've been driving a car all year with it. Frankly, the stock tires are SO TALL, that he'll be over 70 mph before he hits the limiter, my GT does that without the FR1 pack. And knowing how fast you are going is still a guess. The speedometer numbers are far to crowded to know at a glance, and they are only marked (and marked in very tiny size) in 5 mph increments.
I hear you on the speedo inaccuracy...meaningless data.
On the other hand, he swears the tach is marked at 6500 and has experience with the base GT's instruments...we'll see what the real story is, I guess. He does plan to take it to red line and see what happens...of course, tachs are also usually pretty far off of real rpm's, as well.
In slow, out fast. In fast, out backwards.
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Re: Hold up on Shelby Conversions (New 2008 Bullitt specs Released)
mwood:
I hear you on the speedo inaccuracy...meaningless data.
<edit>...of course, tachs are also usually pretty far off of real rpm's, as well.
And oh so responsive... :)
I've shut off the engine, pulled the key out, and looked up to see the tach still coming down - talk about lag!
Jen
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Re: Hold up on Shelby Conversions (New 2008 Bullitt specs Released)
If you really want to know if the 6,500 RPM deal is real, throw a DL1 in the car, hook the tach signal to it and then bang it off the rev limiter in 2nd. Look at the data and the truth will be told.
If it really does go to 6,500, trade in the RX8 Mike .
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| 10-09-2007, 6:52 PM |
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Re: Hold up on Shelby Conversions (New 2008 Bullitt specs Released)
I have 11 months until the RX8 goes bye bye...plenty of time to figure out what's what...of course by then, Ford will probably have released at least two more Mustang "specials" with more to come...seems like every week there's either a new package or rumors... 
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Re: Hold up on Shelby Conversions (New 2008 Bullitt specs Released)
I drove my CS half converted at a few autocrosses before I received my calibration tool in the mail. When I installed the CAI and re calibrated my car , I promptly spun the car at the first autox I went to. ( My co driver who drives a Z06 did the same thing. ) The car was VERY different. It was more responsive and I feel at rev limit it banged and didnt have AS much drop off in power. As for when I hit rev limit in the old setup, it was like dropping a boat anchor. With each part I added the car transformed. Granted, I am relatively new to this sport, but the differences in this car to when i started are staggering. The FR3 suspension pack is amazing on the car. Unless its all the same parts ( which I agree with Sam, I don't know why Ford would do that, make this car exactly like the SHelby save for a different gear ) I would want more clarification. Besides, whats wrong with building a clone, its fun, and you get real intimate with the parts. I should work for Ford Racing, Im like an AMWAY salesman when it comes to extolling the virtues of Ford Racing parts. End of the year deals on California Specials could probably get you a good Cal Special and a deal on all the necessary parts ( which I could tell you, and Sam could sell you  ) for around 27.
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Re: Hold up on Shelby Conversions (New 2008 Bullitt specs Released)
Four decades after
hitting the big screen and redefining the on-screen car chase, the Ford
Mustang Bullitt returns to the streets in 2008, blending the best
Mustang ever with the latest Ford Racing technology.
This modern classic delivers a balance of power and
performance, thanks to special chassis and suspension tweaks as well as
the 315 horsepower and 325 pound-feet of torque that Bullitt delivers
through its 4.6-liter V-8 engine.
“The 2008 Mustang Bullitt embodies the true spirit
of the 1968 movie car,” said Derrick Kuzak, group vice president,
Global Product Development. “Like the original Bullitt, this car dials
the driving dynamics up a notch for Mustang enthusiasts who love the
performance, handling and the sweet sound of Ford power that only
Mustang can deliver.”
The 2008 Bullitt arrives in dealers early next
year, with a starting MSRP of $31,075 (including destination and
delivery) and limited production of 7,700 units for the U.S. and
Canada.
The launch of the limited edition 2008 Mustang
Bullitt coincides with the 40th anniversary of the release of the
Warner Bros. Pictures film that gave the original car its name. In the
movie, legendary actor Steve McQueen drove a Dark Highland Green 1968
Mustang GT that gained cult status among Mustang enthusiasts, thanks to
a seven-minute scene that film and car buffs believe defined the modern
movie car chase.
Bullitt Chassis Delivers a Balance of Performance and Comfort
Ford engineers modified the 2008 Mustang Bullitt’s
chassis and suspension to fine-tune handling and ensure the extra
horsepower and torque from the 4.6-liter V-8 is put to good use. The
live rear axle uses a unique 3.73:1 gear that helps launch the Bullitt
with vigor.
Stock Mustang GT shocks and struts were swapped out
for new units that allowed engineers to dial in a more aggressive
driving dynamic while still maintaining the outstanding ride and
balance of the base Mustang GT. A tower-to-tower brace designed
specifically for the Bullitt lends additional torsional and lateral
stiffness to the chassis for improved cornering and holds a unique
serial number for each Bullitt.
“The 2008 Mustang Bullitt delivers balanced
performance,” said Paul Randle, chief engineer. “Comfort is not
compromised for performance. Performance is on demand. You can easily
take Bullitt from the track to the street and back onto the track with
confidence.”
The brakes also have been improved versus the base
Mustang GT’s. More aggressive front pads were developed specifically
for Bullitt and improve fade resistance and pedal feel.
The 2008 Mustang Bullitt wears unique cast-aluminum
Euroflange wheels, offering a modern twist on the original movie car.
The Dark Argent Gray spokes feature a satin finish, while a
bright-machined lip completes the look. Calipers are colored to match
the wheel. The wheels are wrapped in the same P235/50ZR 18 BF Goodrich
g-Force T/A KDWS tires used on Mustangs at the Ford Racing High
Performance Driving School at Miller Motorsports Park in Utah.
Powered by Ford Racing
Bullitt packs firepower under the hood. The
4.6-liter, 3-valve V-8 delivers 315 horsepower at 6,000 rpm and 325
pound-feet of torque at 4,250 rpm.
Engine calibration is designed to increase throttle
response for a snappier acceleration feel. The redline has been boosted
by 250 rpm to 6,500, with top-end speed bumped to 151 miles-per-hour.
Gears are selected via a Tremac 5-speed manual transmission, and the
shifter is topped with a polished aluminum shift ball designed
specifically for the 2008 Bullitt.
The car features the first use of an open-element
air filter in a factory-produced, fuel-injected Mustang. Inspired by
Ford Racing, the intake is tucked neatly behind the driver side
headlamp, mounted in an air box that was tooled up specifically for the
Mustang. The hood liner was extensively modified to provide a full seal
to the air box, ensuring that the engine is fed a steady diet of cooler
air.
“Colder air reduces intake losses,” said Randle.
“The new cold-air intake has shown a reduction in rise over ambient
temperature from 50 degrees down to 17 degrees Fahrenheit. That equates
to more horsepower and more torque in all driving conditions.”
Engine performance is further enhanced through the
use of an innovative adaptive spark ignition system, new for the 2008
Mustang.
The system can sense, within a few seconds, what
type of fuel is being injected into the motor and adjusts the spark to
provide maximum torque at any given speed – and as much as 10
pounds-feet more between 1,000 and 4,000 rpm.
Bullitt can run on either premium or regular fuel.
Ford recommends premium fuel for optimum performance, but the adaptive
spark ignition will adjust the spark to burn regular fuel without
damaging the engine.
“With all the improvements we’ve made to the engine
and the taller 3.73-to-1 rear gear, the Bullitt will plant you firmly
in the driver’s seat when you stand on the throttle. We’ve seen zero to
60 times drop by up to three tenths of a second,” said Randle. “There’s
also plenty of power on tap at any speed. The car definitely feels
lighter on its feet, and it is.”
The custom-designed exhaust system continues
Mustang’s traditional use of a true dual-exhaust system with a new
H-pipe specifically developed for Bullitt. The all-new mufflers,
featuring larger 3.5-inch chrome tips (versus the 3-inch tips on the
standard Mustang GT) are tuned to minimize backpressure, maximize
horsepower and provide the Bullitt with its powerful exhaust note.
“We wanted to get the exhaust note as close to the
original movie car as possible, so we based it on a digitally mastered
DVD,” said Randle. “We wanted something that would rumble your heart,
literally buzz you – and the Bullitt team delivered.”
Capturing the Bullitt’s Undercover Look
The original 1968 Mustang’s stealth-like appearance
wasn’t necessarily intentional. In typical Hollywood fashion, the movie
crew removed all exterior badges and logos from the car – including the
iconic pony badge on the grille.
The 2008 Mustang Bullitt calls back the original
movie car in painstaking detail – right down to the dark green paint
and lack of exterior badges, scoops and spoilers.
The only visible identification is the word
“Bullitt” dropped into a gun-sight graphic in the center of the faux
gas cap on the decklid.
“The 2008 Mustang Bullitt, like the movie car, is a
wolf in sheep’s clothing,” said Doug Gaffka, chief designer. “Mustang
is – and always has been – such an icon that it’s recognizable without
the badges. But Bullitt’s clean exterior doesn’t give away the Ford
Racing-inspired power and performance lurking under its skin.”
The new Bullitt wears a close match to the movie
car’s 1968 Highland Green paint, officially called Dark Highland Green.
This distinctive color has only graced one other Mustang, the 2001
Mustang Bullitt. Gaffka assures Bullitt enthusiasts that the color will
remain an exclusive Mustang Bullitt color. Non-purists can opt for only
one other color – black.
The Mustang Bullitt uses the standard Mustang GT’s
front fascia. A new black-mesh grille is devoid of the standard chrome
pony and is accented by a satin aluminum strip that represents the
chrome grille surround on the 1968 car. The rear fascia also is shared
with the standard Mustang GT and houses Bullitt’s unique dual exhaust
tips. Dark Argent Gray painted brake calipers closely match the wheel
spokes, while staying true to the original.
Bullitt Interior Delivers Comfort with a Purpose
The interior is pure Mustang Bullitt, understated
and dressed in Charcoal Black leather and Satin metallic trim. The
centerpiece of the interior is the hand-machined, aluminum swirl dash
panel appliqué.
“The machined appliqué differentiates the Bullitt
from any other Mustang in the line-up,” said Gaffka. “It’s also perfect
for the Bullitt. The graphic presentation brings back the feel of the
‘60s while still staying true to the Mustang’s modern interior design.”
Satin aluminum bezels circle the air vents and
gauges, complementing a satin aluminum shift ball that replaces the
standard leather-wrapped shifter on the Mustang GT. The pedals wear
race-inspired aluminum covers that further reinforce Bullitt’s
performance intentions.
The interior is graphically clean. The only
identifying marks visible inside Bullitt are the logo and gun-sight
graphic mounted in the center of the leather-wrapped steering wheel and
the word “Bullitt” embossed into the metal sill plates.
The Dark Charcoal leather seats pick up the diamond
perforation inserts from the base Mustang GT. The seats are patterned
after those in the Shelby GT500 providing added lumbar and bolster
support. The seats are constructed using the new soy-based foam
developed by Ford and introduced on the 2008 Mustang. The soy foam,
made up of 24 percent renewable content, is produced through a process
that requires less energy and emits less CO2.
Bullitt Pushes Beyond
The Bullitt package enhances the Mustang GT Premium package with the following:
Exterior
• Highland Green (unique to Bullitt) or Black exterior paint
• Modified 18-inch micro machined Euro-flange Bullitt wheels and unique satin finish; c/o tri-bar pony wheel cap
• Dark gray painted calipers
• Modified badging with unique satin finish and Bullitt nomenclature
• Unique 3.5-inch stainless steel packed exhaust tips
Interior
• Unique aluminum I/P finish panels with unique gunmetal engine turn pattern
• Aluminum accents – c/o IUP door handles and premier trim pedal covers and shifter trim ring
• Aluminum shifter ball unique to Bullitt
• Revised cluster with gunsight graphics and unique font
• Shelby GT500-style sport front seats and Shelby GT500-style steering wheel with Bullitt logo
• Unique aluminum sill plate (scuff plate) with Bullitt logo
• Serialization plate on strut tower brace
Powertrain
• 4.6-liter, 3-valve SOHC V-8; 315 horsepower
• Tremec TR-3650 5-speed manual transmission
• Signature Bullitt exhaust sound
• New open-element cold air induction system & hood blanket with AIS seal
• High performance calibration
• Dual knock strategy enabling the vehicle to run on either regular unleaded or premium (for improved performance)
• Crisper throttle response
• Revised cam timing at peak power
• Redline increased by 250 RPM to 6500 RPM
• 3.73:1 axle ratio
Chassis
• New unique strut tower brace
• New Unique shock and strut tuning
• Rear spring change that lowers Vehicle Ride Height by approximately 6 mm
• Carbon metallic front brake pads
              
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Re: Hold up on Shelby Conversions (New 2008 Bullitt specs Released)
Wow, those wheels are hideous!
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Re: Hold up on Shelby Conversions (New 2008 Bullitt specs Released)
Same wheels the black Shelby's get (and I don't like them either). Luckily you can change them easily. 
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Re: Hold up on Shelby Conversions (New 2008 Bullitt specs Released)
So..... looking at the pictures, I can't help but notice the redline is still about 6k RPM.
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01 FS Z28: So..... looking at the pictures, I can't help but notice the redline is still about 6k RPM.
Sammy, I guess those eyes of yours are much better at seeing cones than "fine print"
Powertrain
• 4.6-liter, 3-valve SOHC V-8; 315 horsepower
• Tremec TR-3650 5-speed manual transmission
• Signature Bullitt exhaust sound
• New open-element cold air induction system & hood blanket with AIS seal
• High performance calibration
• Dual knock strategy enabling the vehicle to run on either regular unleaded or premium (for improved performance)
• Crisper throttle response
• Revised cam timing at peak power
• Redline increased by 250 RPM to 6500 RPM
• 3.73:1 axle ratio
By my calculations, that means the same 64mph 2nd gear on 285/30-18 A6's as the 3.55 geared '07 cars at 6250rpm. Of course, the nature of the rev limiter might not be "soft", like the Shelby.
Have you, or anyone you know, run the 275/35-18 A6? (for all I know, that may be what you're using already)
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Re: Hold up on Shelby Conversions (New 2008 Bullitt specs Released)
To me, the redline means the redline.... like the Red Line on the tach. Where are they talking about the rev-limiter?
Yeah, you could run 275's and that will get you more speed in 2nd than with 285's. But still less than a 3.55 axle w/285's, and now you get to sit another .3" higher off the ground too.
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