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FYI: Solstice Koni's available

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  •  08-30-2007, 1:20 PM 261752

    FYI: Solstice Koni's available

    The production Koni SA's are available and ready to go for the Solstice (and I'd assume the Sky too, I can't imagine they are different, but might be).  $175 a shock.  Rebound valving is the same thing they used on that Speed TV show, and the same as what they are putting into custom build DA's, but for a lot less money. 

    No DA production version, but personally that's moot to me.  I own DA shocks for my Camaro and don't even use them, I prefer SA's. 


    Sam Strano
    Strano Performance Parts
    814-849-3450
  •  09-03-2007, 1:25 PM 262254 in reply to 261752

    Re: FYI: Solstice Koni's available

    01 FS Z28:

    The production Koni SA's are available and ready to go for the Solstice (and I'd assume the Sky too, I can't imagine they are different, but might be).  $175 a shock.  Rebound valving is the same thing they used on that Speed TV show, and the same as what they are putting into custom build DA's, but for a lot less money. 

    No DA production version, but personally that's moot to me.  I own DA shocks for my Camaro and don't even use them, I prefer SA's. 

     I received mine last week and installed them. For anybody ready to do this let me help you with some points to know. With mostly hand tools (I did have cordless and air tools to help) I did the whole job in a few hours with only a floor jack and stands. --

    1) You will need a 12mm drill bit to drill out all of the upper shock bushings and the two washers that sandwich the bushings. Have some oil handy to cool and lube the bit so you don't burn it.

    2) You will need a cheap spring compressor. There is about 2-3" of pre-load.

    3) You will need to bust loose the lower ball joints at all four corners. Careful hammer use and the ball joints just pops loose. On the front end you'll need to detach the sway bar link to allow the control are to move freely for the shock removal. On the back you need to detach the toe link to allow the shock the be removed.

    4) Once the Konis are installed you can only adjust the left front without some other work. On the right front the power steering reservoir must be moved to access the adjuster. A 10mm socket makes it easy. (Only takes about 60 seconds from start to finish.) On the rear you will need to make holes in the truck floor to access the adjusters. But first find a couple of those big hole plugs that are so often found on floors and firewalls of cars. This will keep dirt and water out of the trunk. (I haven't done that yet, but pre-adjusted my rear shocks before installing them.) This may not be legal for SCCA Solo stock rules, so check first.

    5) Even with the rear shocks firmed up by 2 turns and the fronts (initially) at 1.5 turns my Sky Redline is still quite comfortable on the road. Tighter, but not harsh. At an autocross yesterday there was a noticeable difference in feel, and even a quarter turn on the front shocks was effective. BUY THESE THINGS. You'll love them.


    Bob Buxbaum
    Lee's Summit, Mo.

    Can't wait for Lincoln 2010 !!!!!
  •  09-03-2007, 3:56 PM 262271 in reply to 262254

    Re: FYI: Solstice Koni's available

    snaponbob:
    On the rear you will need to make holes in the truck floor to access the adjusters. But first find a couple of those big hole plugs that are so often found on floors and firewalls of cars. This will keep dirt and water out of the trunk. (I haven't done that yet, but pre-adjusted my rear shocks before installing them.)

    I don't think that you can drill holes in the body to access the adjusters. I remember that a member letter requesting access for upper adjusters for the rear shocks (Mini? RX-8?) that was rejected last year. Yet you can drill holes for DA reservoirs, including to mount the adjusters inside the body (but the holes can only be big enough for the hoses?).

    Glenn L. Austin, Computer Wizard and Race Car Driver
    2005 Ultra Yellow Nissan 350Z Track Model
    Austin-Soft.com
    Author of AXAnalyst and PAXitis
  •  09-03-2007, 6:09 PM 262284 in reply to 262271

    Re: FYI: Solstice Koni's available

    Glenn L. Austin:
    snaponbob:
    On the rear you will need to make holes in the truck floor to access the adjusters. But first find a couple of those big hole plugs that are so often found on floors and firewalls of cars. This will keep dirt and water out of the trunk. (I haven't done that yet, but pre-adjusted my rear shocks before installing them.)

    I don't think that you can drill holes in the body to access the adjusters. I remember that a member letter requesting access for upper adjusters for the rear shocks (Mini? RX-8?) that was rejected last year. Yet you can drill holes for DA reservoirs, including to mount the adjusters inside the body (but the holes can only be big enough for the hoses?).

     
    If Bob went ahead and drilled the holes in his car and made it ineligible for Stock competition he'll lose interest in the Z0K thing...

    Angel


    clyde
    #95 AS Corvette
    TeamWTF?!
  •  09-03-2007, 8:26 PM 262311 in reply to 262284

    Re: FYI: Solstice Koni's available

    clyde:
    Glenn L. Austin:
    snaponbob:
    On the rear you will need to make holes in the truck floor to access the adjusters. But first find a couple of those big hole plugs that are so often found on floors and firewalls of cars. This will keep dirt and water out of the trunk. (I haven't done that yet, but pre-adjusted my rear shocks before installing them.)

    I don't think that you can drill holes in the body to access the adjusters. I remember that a member letter requesting access for upper adjusters for the rear shocks (Mini? RX-8?) that was rejected last year. Yet you can drill holes for DA reservoirs, including to mount the adjusters inside the body (but the holes can only be big enough for the hoses?).


    If Bob went ahead and drilled the holes in his car and made it ineligible for Stock competition he'll lose interest in the Z0K thing...

    Angel

    I have NOT punched the holes YET. But 13.5.F says

    "F. A hole may be added to an interior body panel to provide access to the adjustment mechanism on an allowed adjustable shock absorber. The hole may serve no other purpose, and may not be added through either the exterior bodywork or a strut bar. Interior panels are defined to be those pieces which cover the interior of the vehicle and are accessible from inside the vehicle. They do not include structural panels, such as wheel wells or inner fenders, which may also be accessible from inside the car but which actually form part of the body of the vehicle."

    The floor of the trunk is not part of the wheel wells or inner fenders. I will be in touch with Doug Gill on Tuesday. But I have NEVER met ANYBODY that considered the trunk floor of a car to be an exterior part of the car. 

     

    edit -- The e-mail just went out. I will post the question and answer when I get it.


    Bob Buxbaum
    Lee's Summit, Mo.

    Can't wait for Lincoln 2010 !!!!!
  •  09-03-2007, 8:32 PM 262313 in reply to 262311

    Re: FYI: Solstice Koni's available

    snaponbob:
    clyde:
    Glenn L. Austin:
    snaponbob:
    On the rear you will need to make holes in the truck floor to access the adjusters. But first find a couple of those big hole plugs that are so often found on floors and firewalls of cars. This will keep dirt and water out of the trunk. (I haven't done that yet, but pre-adjusted my rear shocks before installing them.)

    I don't think that you can drill holes in the body to access the adjusters. I remember that a member letter requesting access for upper adjusters for the rear shocks (Mini? RX-8?) that was rejected last year. Yet you can drill holes for DA reservoirs, including to mount the adjusters inside the body (but the holes can only be big enough for the hoses?).


    If Bob went ahead and drilled the holes in his car and made it ineligible for Stock competition he'll lose interest in the Z0K thing...

    Angel

    I have NOT punched the holes YET. But 13.5.F says

    "F. A hole may be added to an interior body panel to provide access to the adjustment mechanism on an allowed adjustable shock absorber. The hole may serve no other purpose, and may not be added through either the exterior bodywork or a strut bar. Interior panels are defined to be those pieces which cover the interior of the vehicle and are accessible from inside the vehicle. They do not include structural panels, such as wheel wells or inner fenders, which may also be accessible from inside the car but which actually form part of the body of the vehicle."

    The floor of the trunk is not part of the wheel wells or inner fenders. I will be in touch with Doug Gill on Tuesday. But I have NEVER met ANYBODY that considered the trunk floor of a car to be an exterior part of the car. 

    You don't consider the trunk floor to be structural, or part of the body of the vehicle?  


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  •  09-03-2007, 8:38 PM 262315 in reply to 262313

    Re: FYI: Solstice Koni's available

    bren:
    snaponbob:
    clyde:
    Glenn L. Austin:
    snaponbob:
    On the rear you will need to make holes in the truck floor to access the adjusters. But first find a couple of those big hole plugs that are so often found on floors and firewalls of cars. This will keep dirt and water out of the trunk. (I haven't done that yet, but pre-adjusted my rear shocks before installing them.)

    I don't think that you can drill holes in the body to access the adjusters. I remember that a member letter requesting access for upper adjusters for the rear shocks (Mini? RX-8?) that was rejected last year. Yet you can drill holes for DA reservoirs, including to mount the adjusters inside the body (but the holes can only be big enough for the hoses?).


    If Bob went ahead and drilled the holes in his car and made it ineligible for Stock competition he'll lose interest in the Z0K thing...

    Angel

    I have NOT punched the holes YET. But 13.5.F says

    "F. A hole may be added to an interior body panel to provide access to the adjustment mechanism on an allowed adjustable shock absorber. The hole may serve no other purpose, and may not be added through either the exterior bodywork or a strut bar. Interior panels are defined to be those pieces which cover the interior of the vehicle and are accessible from inside the vehicle. They do not include structural panels, such as wheel wells or inner fenders, which may also be accessible from inside the car but which actually form part of the body of the vehicle."

    The floor of the trunk is not part of the wheel wells or inner fenders. I will be in touch with Doug Gill on Tuesday. But I have NEVER met ANYBODY that considered the trunk floor of a car to be an exterior part of the car. 

    You don't consider the trunk floor to be structural, or part of the body of the vehicle?  

     If so, EVERYTHING except the trunk panel, hood, door panels, and detachable fender panels and bumpers, and movable roof panels are structural. We'll find out this week. If I can, or can not punch the holes, I will share that, and I will bring needle nose pliers!!!


    Bob Buxbaum
    Lee's Summit, Mo.

    Can't wait for Lincoln 2010 !!!!!
  •  09-03-2007, 8:51 PM 262320 in reply to 262315

    Re: FYI: Solstice Koni's available

    snaponbob:

     If so, EVERYTHING except the trunk panel, hood, door panels, and detachable fender panels and bumpers, and movable roof panels are structural. We'll find out this week. If I can, or can not punch the holes, I will share that, and I will bring needle nose pliers!!!

    Funny how you can't cut holes through those non-structural items either, huh?

    Good for you for not cutting the holes (whether by luck or design).

    Don't expect to be happy with the answer you seem to be expecting.


    clyde
    #95 AS Corvette
    TeamWTF?!
  •  09-03-2007, 10:05 PM 262337 in reply to 262320

    Re: FYI: Solstice Koni's available

    Nope. No holes in the trunk I Look at it this way. If you need to plug the hole to keep dirt and water out then it's NOT an interior body panel.

    Glenn: it was the Mini's and 06+ MX-5's that were turned down. The MX-5 request (I wrote one) added "or a strut bar" to the rule. The Mini I believe has a non exterior and non functional piece of metal (aka "bodywork") in the way.

    Maybe if you promise to only drill it from the inside, $%#& I drilled to deep


    Mark Hirt
    2007 MX-5 MS-R
    Bowman Race Kart - rented
    Webmaster Chicago Region SCCA
  •  09-03-2007, 10:05 PM 262339 in reply to 262320

    Re: FYI: Solstice Koni's available

    clyde:
    snaponbob:

     If so, EVERYTHING except the trunk panel, hood, door panels, and detachable fender panels and bumpers, and movable roof panels are structural. We'll find out this week. If I can, or can not punch the holes, I will share that, and I will bring needle nose pliers!!!

    Funny how you can't cut holes through those non-structural items either, huh?

    Good for you for not cutting the holes (whether by luck or design).

    Don't expect to be happy with the answer you seem to be expecting.

     

    Whatever. We'll find out soon enough. I guess there wording should be "NO holes". It seems unfair that holes apparently CAN be punched for reservoirs which represents an external adjustment feature, but not for adjusters which are part of the shock structure itself. As it stands, I set the rear shocks where I wanted them, and will "trim" the setup with the fronts. Or is moving the power steering reservoir illegal too?!?!?!?!?!?!


    Bob Buxbaum
    Lee's Summit, Mo.

    Can't wait for Lincoln 2010 !!!!!
  •  09-03-2007, 10:10 PM 262340 in reply to 262337

    Re: FYI: Solstice Koni's available

    Mark Hirt:
    Nope. No holes in the trunk I Look at it this way. If you need to plug the hole to keep dirt and water out then it's NOT an interior body panel. Glenn: it was the Mini's and 06+ MX-5's that were turned down. The MX-5 request (I wrote one) added "or a strut bar" to the rule. On the Mini I believe there is a non exterior and non functional piece of metal (aka "bodywork") in the way. Well maybe if you promise to only drill it from the inside, $%#& I drilled to deep
     

    Since hairs are being split, where would the wording put this issue with a hatchback? And what if the holes were already there? THAT would seem lop sided. As for body plugs, my TR8 has them in multiple places in the passenger compartment. Why, I have NO idea. But they are there. But, then again, it's a Triumph!!


    Bob Buxbaum
    Lee's Summit, Mo.

    Can't wait for Lincoln 2010 !!!!!
  •  09-03-2007, 10:27 PM 262344 in reply to 262340

    Re: FYI: Solstice Koni's available

    No hairs, you can drill through interior body panels, most (like mine) are plastic and do not exit to the dirty side of he car.

    Sorry the the place your top goes in NOT a hatchback

    As for the existing holes.. If they came there from the factory (or some TSB) then you would be free to use them.

    snaponbob:
    Since hairs are being split, where would the wording put this issue with a hatchback? And what if the holes were already there? THAT would seem lop sided. As for body plugs, my TR8 has them in multiple places in the passenger compartment. Why, I have NO idea. But they are there. But, then again, it's a Triumph!!

    Mark Hirt
    2007 MX-5 MS-R
    Bowman Race Kart - rented
    Webmaster Chicago Region SCCA
  •  09-03-2007, 10:36 PM 262347 in reply to 262339

    Re: FYI: Solstice Koni's available

    Howdy,

    snaponbob:

    Or is moving the power steering reservoir illegal too?!?!?!?!?!?!

    In stock class?  It's pretty easy to answer that... What rule allows you to move it?

     

    I don't see one.

    Mark

     

    (Btw, you don't need to separate the rear balljoint for shock removal on the rear for a GXP... just the rear tie rod.  Sounds like you make know this since you later referenced the rear tie rods, but your post sorta implies that you have to.) 

  •  09-03-2007, 10:38 PM 262348 in reply to 262344

    Re: FYI: Solstice Koni's available

    Mark Hirt:

    No hairs, you can drill through interior body panels, most (like mine) are plastic and do not exit to the dirty side of he car.

    Sorry the the place your top goes in NOT a hatchback

    As for the existing holes.. If they came there from the factory (or some TSB) then you would be free to use them.

    snaponbob:
    Since hairs are being split, where would the wording put this issue with a hatchback? And what if the holes were already there? THAT would seem lop sided. As for body plugs, my TR8 has them in multiple places in the passenger compartment. Why, I have NO idea. But they are there. But, then again, it's a Triumph!!

    Ahhhh what the hell. With 64 cars in A/Stock, I could rebuild the engine between runs!!!! Almost. So, if I really felt compelled to adjust the rears, I should be able to figure out something!!


    Bob Buxbaum
    Lee's Summit, Mo.

    Can't wait for Lincoln 2010 !!!!!
  •  09-03-2007, 10:52 PM 262351 in reply to 262348

    Re: FYI: Solstice Koni's available

    Bob - it's somewhat unpleasant, but if you jack the car up under the diff, you can access the rear adjuster under the fender, above the tire.  (If you have Popeye forearms, maybe not, but a wimpy pencil necked geek like myself can get his skinny hands up in there.

    The passenger front also can be gotten to above the wheel if you jack the car a little on that side.   

    - Nick 


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