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Wife's suprise for me!
Last post 07-08-2008, 7:18 PM by GChambers. 81 replies.
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Re: Wife's suprise for me!
ouch
I've owned an SE-R and an NX2000 over the years - I loved the SR20.
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06-16-2008, 8:20 PM |
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Re: Wife's suprise for me!
The Nebulizer: turbohappy:
The Nebulizer:I didn't realize the antifreeze went around the cylinder like that - is that standard?
LOL. Yes, that's what keeps the cylinders cool 
So, I got curious why this seemed odd to me - I have never had my hands inside an engine before (I did install an S/C on my 325Ci without a problem, but that is my only experience). From an image search, many engine blocks have a different design with the antifreeze running in parallel channels rather than going 'around' the cylinders. Brian, I think your Honda engine has the same around the cylinder pattern. I guess on the car TV shows they really just show the massive V8s so maybe that is why it looked different to me.
Looks like a nice engine to work on - not too complicated and plenty of room. (For my SC install the hardest part was how extremely tight the engine bay was - very painful hands and wrists.) Bob, if you are pulling the valves, please post some pics of the bent ones. Were the piston heads damaged at all from the valve collision?
Engines like the one in Bob's Swift are refered to as "open deck" deck engines. Closed or solid deck engines are more common as it's easier to seal the head to the block, but in recent years as head gasket and metalurgy has advanced more companies are going to open deck designs. The advantage of open deck blocks is that it allows more coolant passages around the cylinders, adds cooling to the head gasket, and the block is easier to cast at the foundry.
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06-17-2008, 12:34 AM |
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Re: Wife's suprise for me!
mtownneon:Engines like the one in Bob's Swift are refered to as "open deck" deck engines. Closed or solid deck engines are more common as it's easier to seal the head to the block, but in recent years as head gasket and metalurgy has advanced more companies are going to open deck designs. The advantage of open deck blocks is that it allows more coolant passages around the cylinders, adds cooling to the head gasket, and the block is easier to cast at the foundry.
Thanks for the explanation, Dave.
Jason P. Indy Region Moderator SMS - M3 LSB SMG E46
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06-17-2008, 8:36 AM |
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dbrier:
ouch
I've owned an SE-R and an NX2000 over the years - I loved the SR20.
I'm fairly certain the SR20 is MUCH heavier than the motorcycle engine it has now! That was the lightest head I've ever pulled.
"Drag racing is for fast cars, autocrossing is for fast drivers"
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06-18-2008, 12:06 PM |
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Re: Wife's suprise for me!
Around 275 lbs, not including clutch or tranny. Tranny is another 75 pounds.
Steve Linn Indy Region #6 ITA Sentra SE-R www.indyscca.org
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06-18-2008, 1:53 PM |
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All aluminum, but there are some cast iron and steel brackets and such.
Steve Linn Indy Region #6 ITA Sentra SE-R www.indyscca.org
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06-26-2008, 6:33 AM |
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Bobzilla
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Well, Dropped the cam cover and header off at Pro-Kote here in Indy. Decided on gloss black powdercoat with the lettering polished back to aluminum and their cermakrome finish on the header. . . should be shiny!
Just a quick before pic... hope to have an after soon. . .


Nice and rusty, just howwe like'em. . .
"Drag racing is for fast cars, autocrossing is for fast drivers"
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06-30-2008, 12:08 AM |
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On the way back from The National Tour I was listening to Car Talk and a guy called in about his beloved '93 Suzuki Swift. It was involved in somekind of warehouse collision and bent the frame. He was trying to get them to back him up that it was worth getting fixed (something about a Unibody frame being impossible to properly straighten... ) Their concern was no airbag (does yours have an airbag?) - but he said he was getting 50-60mpg and loved the car. (After discussion they concluded the bend was actually an easy fix.)
So, Bob, is not the only Swift lover out there.
Jason P. Indy Region Moderator SMS - M3 LSB SMG E46
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07-02-2008, 10:20 AM |
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Wait a minute... that is the same header? Are you sure they didn't swap you a new one? That looks great! Will it go back to being rusty though? Or, is there some kind of coating to keep it looking so fresh?
BTW I am no mechanic, but I think in that first 'after' picture of the header, you may have it installed incorrectly... 
Very nice looking parts you got there, Bob. Its going to look brand new. Now go put them in! (and take more pictures as you do it... )
Jason P. Indy Region Moderator SMS - M3 LSB SMG E46
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07-02-2008, 10:48 AM |
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Well the Swift is sure going to look nice under the hood! Looks great.
Brian Davis, 89 Civic Si, 158 STS
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07-08-2008, 1:19 PM |
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Oh, I didn't realize you didn't have a back section. Can't beat $28. No lower section though? Do you have to have a full back seat to run in STS?
How long until we can hear this kitty purr?
I got my fingers greasy today... Yesterday on my old daily driver (94 Mitsu Diamante) my auto trans started slipping and stalled on my way to work. I checked the fluid and it was low (err... dry) so I added some. By the time I got home had the problem again - obviously a leak somewhere... I checked under the car and actually found the leak right off - in a metal tube running to cooler. I simply got a little section of heater hose and clamped it over the leak - and it actually seems to hold. Made it to work nice and dry today. (I may replace the metal line soon as it looks pretty easy to do.) I should take some pictures so I can show off my skills... 
Jason P. Indy Region Moderator SMS - M3 LSB SMG E46
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07-08-2008, 2:28 PM |
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Racerlinn:Around 275 lbs, not including clutch or tranny. Tranny is another 75 pounds.
According to the metals recycler, the SR20 block, head, pistons and crank weigh a total of 187 pound. Or $37 if you are in that market.
Steve Linn Indy Region #6 ITA Sentra SE-R www.indyscca.org
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07-08-2008, 2:33 PM |
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Lookin' good Bob!
Brian Davis, 89 Civic Si, 158 STS
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07-08-2008, 4:26 PM |
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Yes, full back seat is required (full interior in ST classes). Luckily, Mr Steve Brinkerhoff happens to have a nice, lightly use seat bottom for me. Just got to catch him one of these days.
Running is a long way off. . .getting the cheap stuff done while the cash flow is slow. Hope to have it running by November. . . maybe by the 1st or second 
Steve, Aluminum was around $.80 / lb. Sounds like you got ripped.
"Drag racing is for fast cars, autocrossing is for fast drivers"
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07-08-2008, 5:18 PM |
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This thing is perfect for STS. The mismatched colored interior really helps. Your current STS car looks WAY too nice to be competitive. Even Hollis' car is pretty screwed up looking after the incident at Nats last year.
Brian Davis, 89 Civic Si, 158 STS
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