SCCAForums.com

SCCA Racing Forums, Discussions and Blogs

Welcome to SCCAForums.com Sign in | Join | Latest Posts | My Posts | Help
in Search

Atlanta Pro Solo Index Results

Last post 05-20-2008, 5:15 AM by rtp.rick. 16 replies.
Sort Posts: Previous Next
  •  05-19-2008, 5:57 AM 300941

    Atlanta Pro Solo Index Results

    I have attached a PDF of the Atlanta Pro Solo Index results. These use the Pro Solo Index factors, not the PAX/RTP factors. Also, the "Actual Times" from the Indexed Classes are shown already Indexed.

    H's & K's,
    Rick Ruth

  •  05-19-2008, 10:51 AM 300979 in reply to 300941

    Re: Atlanta Pro Solo Index Results

    Hey Rick. Thanks for posting the results! Is there any way to run the report with normal PAX/RTP factors? Since this wasn't a normal Pro Solo and since Pro Solo indices are screwed up anyway, the regular PAX/RTP index might be interesting to see.

     

    Thanks!

    Mike
     


    Mike King
    88 CRX Si - STS2 #99
    Jacksonville, FL
    2007, 2008 STS2 Solo National Champion
    Team Bridgestone - King Motorsports - A-Spec Racing - Renspeed
  •  05-19-2008, 11:19 AM 300985 in reply to 300979

    Re: Atlanta Pro Solo Index Results

    SoloTiresdotCom:

    Hey Rick. Thanks for posting the results! Is there any way to run the report with normal PAX/RTP factors? Since this wasn't a normal Pro Solo and since Pro Solo indices are screwed up anyway, the regular PAX/RTP index might be interesting to see.

    Thanks!

    Mike 

    I'll see what I can do.

    H's & K's,
    Rick Ruth

  •  05-19-2008, 11:33 AM 300989 in reply to 300979

    Re: Atlanta Pro Solo Index Results

    SoloTiresdotCom:

    Hey Rick. Thanks for posting the results! Is there any way to run the report with normal PAX/RTP factors? Since this wasn't a normal Pro Solo and since Pro Solo indices are screwed up anyway, the regular PAX/RTP index might be interesting to see.

     

    Thanks!

    Mike
     

    No doubt.  This was my first Pro in the CRX and I was pretty shocked by the handicap STS2 is given compared to STS.  Who makes those things up anyway?  Rick, they should adopt your index.  :)

     

    Matt

  •  05-19-2008, 2:54 PM 301052 in reply to 300989

    Re: Atlanta Pro Solo Index Results

    I've discussed, with the SCCA, using the PAX/RTP Index factors for the "Pro" events.  The factors do seem to be more meaningful than the Pro Solo Factors.  I realize the format is different and could (should), require different numbers, but the ones adopted seem to be substantially awry and the PAX/RTP numbers seem to be much closer.  :-(     I even suggested that they wouldn't get a ton of flak about the factors because they didn't come up with them.  :-)     At any rate, SCCA insisted on using their own factors.

    The Atlanta Pro used side-by-side courses, or two different courses?  Or, were the two times used from morning and afternoon?

    Please let me know.

    Thanks, with H's & K's,
    Rick Ruth

  •  05-19-2008, 3:03 PM 301056 in reply to 301052

    Re: Atlanta Pro Solo Index Results

    The Atlanta Pro course was one course with two cars on course at the same time. The left "start" had about a ~50 foot launch then an immediate ~110 degree turn back to the left with about a 25 foot radius. The right "start" had about 100 feet of straight before you made a 90 right then a 90 left. So, when it came down to it, it very much was like a Tour course on the left with the start the way it was and more like a Pro on the right, but not terribly.

     

    Times were used from morning and also afternoon. The course just rubbered up and got warmer by a mile in the early afternoon.

     

    -MK 


    Mike King
    88 CRX Si - STS2 #99
    Jacksonville, FL
    2007, 2008 STS2 Solo National Champion
    Team Bridgestone - King Motorsports - A-Spec Racing - Renspeed
  •  05-19-2008, 3:41 PM 301063 in reply to 301056

    Re: Atlanta Pro Solo Index Results

    I guess what I'm trying to understand, is what to call the first row of times, as opposed to the second row of times?  In a normal Pro, they would be left and right, but I don't know what to call these.  Or, should I just Index them by the best single run?  What does the total represent?

    Thanks, with H's & K's,
    Rick Ruth

  •  05-19-2008, 3:52 PM 301066 in reply to 301063

    Re: Atlanta Pro Solo Index Results

    The first row of times is the left side.  The second row is the right side.  The first run on each side was done in the morning and was really just a look at the course and a test and tune.  In the afternoon, competitors got two more tries on each side.  The total is the best run from each side added.
  •  05-19-2008, 4:06 PM 301068 in reply to 301066

    Re: Atlanta Pro Solo Index Results

    Attached is a PDF of the Pro Solo Index Results from the Left Side of the Atlanta Pro.  These results use the standard PAX/RTP factors, instead of the Pro Solo Index factors.  I will post Right Side and Final Results in subsequent posts.

    H's & K's,
    Rick Ruth

  •  05-19-2008, 4:07 PM 301070 in reply to 301068

    Re: Atlanta Pro Solo Index Results

    Attached is a PDF of the Pro Solo Index Results from the Right Side of the Atlanta Pro.  These results use the standard PAX/RTP factors, instead of the Pro Solo Index factors.  I will post Final Results in a subsequent post.

    H's & K's,
    Rick Ruth

  •  05-19-2008, 4:08 PM 301071 in reply to 301070

    Re: Atlanta Pro Solo Index Results

    Attached is a PDF of the Final Pro Solo Index Results from the Atlanta Pro.  These results use the standard PAX/RTP factors, instead of the Pro Solo Index factors.

    H's & K's,
    Rick Ruth

  •  05-19-2008, 4:27 PM 301072 in reply to 301071

    Re: Atlanta Pro Solo Index Results

    Not that it matters, but where did my name disappear to?

     I would have liked to have had that index


    Chris Raymond
    1990 Miata - STS2
  •  05-19-2008, 5:59 PM 301096 in reply to 301072

    Re: Atlanta Pro Solo Index Results

    decke003:

    Not that it matters, but where did my name disappear to?

     I would have liked to have had that index

    Sorry, Christopher.  You and one other (Christopher Rotenbe) got eliminated, somehow, when I did the PAX/RTP versions.  It so happend that you two had the longest names.  That me have had something to do with it.  I don't really think it had anything to do with being a "Christopher".  :-)

    At any rate, I have replaced the three PDFs in the posts, above, as of 5:00pm CST.

    H's & K's,
    Rick Ruth

  •  05-19-2008, 6:26 PM 301102 in reply to 301096

    Re: Atlanta Pro Solo Index Results

    Thank you for the postings Rick!

    I have never finished that high in PAX befor at a national event.  It was good to see.


    Mark Davis
    1993 Toyota MR-2 White "Casper"
  •  05-19-2008, 9:21 PM 301148 in reply to 301102

    • sm2dan is not online. Last active: 10/11/2008, 7:25 AM sm2dan
    • Top 100 Contributor
      Male
    • Joined on 12-26-2000
    • Round Rock, Texas. y'all
    • Posts 650
    • Points 8,260

    Re: Atlanta Pro Solo Index Results

    Rick, just an FYI, your Right Side calculations are incorrect.

     


    Dan Pedroza
    CS 72/172
    2008 Nationals CS first loser
  •  05-19-2008, 11:25 PM 301179 in reply to 301052

    Re: Atlanta Pro Solo Index Results

    rtp.rick:

    I've discussed, with the SCCA, using the PAX/RTP Index factors for the "Pro" events.  The factors do seem to be more meaningful than the Pro Solo Factors.  I realize the format is different and could (should), require different numbers, but the ones adopted seem to be substantially awry and the PAX/RTP numbers seem to be much closer.  :-(     I even suggested that they wouldn't get a ton of flak about the factors because they didn't come up with them.  :-)     At any rate, SCCA insisted on using their own factors.

    The Atlanta Pro used side-by-side courses, or two different courses?  Or, were the two times used from morning and afternoon?

    Please let me know.

    Thanks, with H's & K's,
    Rick Ruth

    I would hope that the "power"('s) that be at SCCA would take your offer to help with the PAX numbers in the future.  I think using your numbers with some small tweaks to classes such as BSP, STU, STX and other AWD dominated classes for the launch advantage might be better than the numbers we have now.

    BTW, it's obvious your numbers are more accurate. Wink

    1 1 SM2 Erik Strelnieks 1993 Mazda 3-Rotor R Hoosier 0.867 81.236 70.432 0.000

    2 1 ESP Mark Madarash 1988 Pontiac Trans-A Hoosier 0.841 83.798 70.474 0.043


    Erik Strelnieks
    93 3-ROTOR RX7
    01 Honda S2000
    05 SLK 350 AMG
    08 BMW 135i
  •  05-20-2008, 5:15 AM 301193 in reply to 301148

    Re: Atlanta Pro Solo Index Results

    sm2dan:

    Rick, just an FYI, your Right Side calculations are incorrect. 

    I re-checked and discovered that I had not recalculated the right side, at all.  I have replaced the Right Side PDF above.  Sorry and thanks Dan.

    H's & K's,
    Rick Ruth 

View as RSS news feed in XML