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Anyone running dual sidedraft carbs??

Last post 04-15-2008, 9:25 PM by chore. 8 replies.
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  •  01-30-2006, 10:45 PM 175106

    Anyone running dual sidedraft carbs??

    I am going to run dual mikuni/solex 40 sidedraft carbs hopefully soon and am wondering how do you people like these compared to stock downdraft. How is the throttle response? power? How many seconds faster was your auto x time with the sidedrafts compared to without?
  •  01-30-2006, 11:55 PM 175114 in reply to 175106

    Re: Anyone running dual sidedraft carbs??

    Just a hint, but you might want to be a tad more specific.  Like, what kinda car you have etc. 

    I have not run dual sidedrafts on my car.  But then again, I have an STi.  I did run twin Weber 36DCNFs on my Yugo.  So in my opinion you will be 3.74 seconds faster.

    Chris H.

  •  01-31-2006, 12:11 AM 175115 in reply to 175106

    Re: Anyone running dual sidedraft carbs??

    Sorry. I am going to put my dual mikuni 40 sidedrafts with syncronizers on an 82 toyota starlet (1.3L pushrod 4KC engine) with no other engine mods except for headers.
  •  02-08-2006, 4:48 PM 176238 in reply to 175115

    Re: Anyone running dual sidedraft carbs??

    properly tuned, you will should see an improvement.  What was your stock carburetor?  I know on my car the single barel Solex was the limiting factor.  It just could not breathe enough.  Installing webmer 40 DCOE made a great improvement.  But they have to be tuned properly.  Mine wsa done on a Dyno.  Took a couple hours to get all of the jets and timing right.

    steve k.

    [color=#990000]KGB-Racing Merchandise
    "Super Karate Monkey Death Car"

  •  03-06-2006, 8:37 AM 180079 in reply to 175115

    Re: Anyone running dual sidedraft carbs??

    This is basically like comparing apples and kumquats, but FWIW:

    My 77 MGB has the stock smog cam and low-compression heads. It had the single sidedraft Zenith/Stromberg 1.75" (if I recall correctly).

    When the carb died, I replaced it with a Weber downdraft that was supposed to be a mild street setup. I think it was a 36DGV, but I'm not sure about that.. I also installed headers at the same time (mechanically necessary to change both together on a "B"). I never could get that setup to run right.

    I finally replaced the Weber with a pair of SU 1.75" sidedrafts. The stock dual carb setup in the 60's used 1.5" carbs, and my engine certainly doesn't breathe as freely with the late model cam. In theory, it should have been over-carbed, but in practice it runs great. Low-end torque and responsiveness was greatly improved.

    Note that I used NEW SUs (HS6). The throttle shafts aren't bushed, so old worn-out SUs are notorious for airleaks, but there are ways to fix that.

    The SUs are noteworthy for having a dynamically variable throat size, and it works great. I know nothing about the Mikunis, but I think there are some SU copies that were used on some early Japanese sports  cars.
  •  05-02-2006, 6:42 PM 190324 in reply to 180079

    Re: Anyone running dual sidedraft carbs??

    Two 40mm side draft carbs is a LOT of carb fora 1.3L car. That is a 40mm throat for each cylinder, which is probably not much more than 400 mm in diameter. :)

    I ran 40 DCOEs on my 1.6L Toyota Corolla for a street setup and found that you could not get the mid range tuned to work properly OR you would get horible ga mileage. The carbs were running on teh intermediate circuit on the street, even at highway speeds (FAST highway speeds). So you had to lean out the intermeidate circuit, which cuaased as stumble when transitioning from idel to main circuits.

    You can make it work, but it will be a compromise between on course and street performance.
    Terry Carraway
    WDCR
    SRF 561 Red/White #4
  •  05-03-2006, 12:40 AM 190385 in reply to 175106

    Re: Anyone running dual sidedraft carbs??

    I run twin 44 Mikuni's on my 2 liter Datsun motor. I can't compare them to a down draft , but compared to the Hitachi SU's they work better at the top end. A few of the people I know who switched from down drafts to side drafts. Mostly in Datsun 510's , used a single 45mm on a single sidedraft manifold. If the double 40's are going on a stock 1300 you will have problems tuning them for the
    flow you have. It could be done, but they would be fairly choked down. Way to many factors effect carbs. With injection the ECU adjusts by the parameters they receive from sensors.

    Good Luck !

    Mike

  •  05-14-2006, 6:40 PM 192141 in reply to 190385

    Re: Anyone running dual sidedraft carbs??

    If tuned properly they are about as good as FI.If you want to put them on a peanut motor just get smaller chokes to slow the flow.Jet down mains ,air ,fuel, pilot jets too.plus the low speed ones.Totally adjustable to what ever you need if you know what to do.There is also an accelerator pump that you can make adjustments to too.

                                                Toddzilla


    srl311
  •  04-15-2008, 9:25 PM 295474 in reply to 175106

    Re: Anyone running dual sidedraft carbs??

    I HAVE DUEL MUKINI 48 SIDEDRAFTS FOR SALE 

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