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Toyota problems

Last post 03-02-2010, 8:02 AM by snaponbob. 191 replies.
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  •  02-02-2010, 2:29 PM 401251 in reply to 400885

    Re: Toyota problems

    How's this for irony?


    http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/83184417.html?showAll=y&amp;c=y

    Man’s truck strikes BR Toyota dealership




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        * Published: Jan 31, 2010

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    A man who attempted to return his recalled Toyota pickup truck to All Star Toyota on Airline Highway on Saturday crashed into the dealership building when his allegedly faulty accelerator stuck, the Baton Rouge Police Department reported.

    The crash caused extensive damage to the truck involved, but no major injuries were reported, said Lt. Todd G. Lee Sr., chief of administrative services for the Police Department.

    Mikel Valviva sought to return his truck to the dealership at 9150 Airline Highway, saying he no longer wanted it because of the recall on the accelerator, Lee said.

    The dealership’s manager, Joe Costanza, offered to repair Valviva’s truck and loan him a car in the meantime, Lee said.

    Matt McKay, owner of the All Star Automotive Group, said Costanza explained to Valviva on three separate occasions on Saturday that the dealership could not refund his money for the truck.

    McKay said the process during the recall requires dealerships to provide a loaner car while the recalled vehicle is repaired.

    Valviva refused the offers and tried to leave the dealership, but his gas pedal stuck, Lee said. The truck accelerated forward, striking the building, Lee said.

    EMS personnel treated Valviva and his passenger  for minor injuries on scene, Lee said.

    McKay said a cosmetic column on the building received only minor damage.

    Costanza confirmed Valviva’s truck is one of the models included in the recall, Lee said.

    The investigating officer found no evidence the incident was intentional, Lee said.

    “He didn’t have enough evidence to say that definitively,” Lee said.

    McKay said he had “no comment” when asked if he believed the incident was accidental.

    This is the first report of an accident caused by a faulty accelerator on a Toyota in the Greater Baton Rouge area, Lee said.

    McKay said Valviva bought the truck in March 2009, and he had “no previous complaints or issues with the gas pedal.”

    Attempts by The Advocate to reach Valviva on Saturday afternoon were unsuccessful.

    Toyota Motor Co. said Tuesday it was suspending the sale of eight models and recalling more than 2 million cars because the gas pedals could become harder to press, slower to spring back or stuck.

    Sean Kane, director of Safety Research and Strategies, a consumer group that conducts research into motor vehicle safety issues, said his firm has identified 2,274 incidents of sudden unintended acceleration in Toyota vehicles leading to at least 275 crashes and 18 deaths since 1999, the Associated Press reported.

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  •  02-03-2010, 8:41 AM 401359 in reply to 400748

    Re: Toyota problems

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    There have been some questions concerning the attention that some Toyota models have received in the media.

     

    First, SCCA Technical Inspectors and other officials are not required to allow an entrant to participate in their Region’s SCCA Solo events if there are any concerns (Solo Rules 4.1.D), including vehicle safety. No matter how disappointed a possible entrant may be, no one wants an incident report to be filed.

     

    However, there are a couple of things that should be considered. This recall is a decision by the manufacturer – not by the government (at this time). Owners have not been asked to park their cars; the cars of concern continue to be on the road. Without federal and/or manufacturer actions, the Solo Department has no additional information to add or recommend concerning this issue, except a reminder to check throttle action in accordance with Solo Rules 3.3.3.B.8.

     

    A couple of answers from Toyota to owners may be of help. (http://pressroom.toyota.com/pr/tms/toyota/FAQ-for-Sticking-Accelerator-Pedal-152196.aspx)

     

    What is the likelihood that my vehicle will experience this condition?
    The condition is rare and does not occur suddenly. It can occur when the pedal mechanism becomes worn and, in certain conditions, the accelerator pedal may become harder to depress, slower to return or, in the worst case, stuck in a partially depressed position.

     

    What should I do if I believe my vehicle is affected by this condition, i.e. I have noticed that my accelerator pedal is hard to depress, slow to return or is unsmooth during operation. What should I do?
    The vehicle should be driven to the nearest safe location, the engine shut off and a Toyota dealer contacted for assistance.

     

    Using this information from the manufacturer as a guideline, SCCA Solo Technical Inspectors should have the necessary experience equal or better than typical Toyota owners to determine any throttle concerns. Vehicles with this condition “should be driven to a safe location”

    (emphasis mine).

     

    This is a separate issue from the floor mats concern which “have trapped the accelerator pedal” in certain vehicles (http://pressroom.toyota.com/pr/tms/toyota/toyota-consumer-safety-advisory-102572.aspx). While floor mats may not be considered by some SCCA members to be “loose items” as in Solo Rules 3.3.3.B.1, it is always good to have floor mats removed from the vehicle during competition, even if secured by traditional/typical floor mat fasteners.

     

    Thanks for all you do for our club.


    - Doug
    SCCA Solo Competition Manager
  •  02-03-2010, 9:16 AM 401369 in reply to 401359

    Re: Toyota problems

    The DOT just issued a STOP DRIVING alert

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35216587/ns/business-autos/

    Transport chief: Stop driving recalled Toyotas
    Transportation Secretary LaHood advises owners to seek repair at dealers
       
    WASHINGTON - Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood is telling owners of recalled Toyotas to stop driving the vehicles and get them fixed.

    LaHood's warning came Wednesday in testimony before a House Appropriations subcommittee on transportation. LaHood says his advice to owners is to "stop driving it. Take it to a Toyota dealer because they believe they have a fix for it."

    Toyota's most recent recall in the United States affects 2.3 million vehicles with the potential for sticking gas pedals.
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    LaHood told reporters earlier in the day that Toyota owners should contact their dealer immediately and "exercise caution until repairs can be made."

    Lahood also said he plans to speak with Toyota President Akio Toyoda about the automaker's spate of recalls in the United States. LaHood confirms that the government is investigating potential electrical problems in Toyota vehicles.


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  •  02-03-2010, 11:02 AM 401388 in reply to 401369

    Re: Toyota problems

    BrianCunningham:

    The DOT just issued a STOP DRIVING alert

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35216587/ns/business-autos/

    Transport chief: Stop driving recalled Toyotas
    Transportation Secretary LaHood advises owners to seek repair at dealers
       
    WASHINGTON - Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood is telling owners of recalled Toyotas to stop driving the vehicles and get them fixed.

    LaHood's warning came Wednesday in testimony before a House Appropriations subcommittee on transportation. LaHood says his advice to owners is to "stop driving it. Take it to a Toyota dealer because they believe they have a fix for it."

    Toyota's most recent recall in the United States affects 2.3 million vehicles with the potential for sticking gas pedals.
    Story continues below ↓advertisement | your ad here

    LaHood told reporters earlier in the day that Toyota owners should contact their dealer immediately and "exercise caution until repairs can be made."

    Lahood also said he plans to speak with Toyota President Akio Toyoda about the automaker's spate of recalls in the United States. LaHood confirms that the government is investigating potential electrical problems in Toyota vehicles.

    That is an news report of what LaHood is "telling owners" and of "his advice to owners." At this time, there is nothing like a "STOP DRIVING alert" from the DOT. http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

    Maybe his people haven't gotten the memo from MSNBC yet... Confused

    Even if the NHTSA recommends owners shouldn't drive their cars (unless the pedal is harder to depress or slow to return), I don't see anything I would change in my previous post.


    - Doug
    SCCA Solo Competition Manager
  •  02-03-2010, 11:06 AM 401389 in reply to 401388

    Re: Toyota problems

  •  02-03-2010, 1:54 PM 401419 in reply to 401389

    Re: Toyota problems

    sounds like his lawyer spoke

    LOL


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  •  02-03-2010, 2:05 PM 401422 in reply to 401419

    Re: Toyota problems

    It's strange that there's been no mention of the 2009/2010 Pontiac Vibe...

    Gene Cooley

  •  02-03-2010, 6:11 PM 401446 in reply to 401422

    Re: Toyota problems

    genecooley:

    It's strange that there's been no mention of the 2009/2010 Pontiac Vibe...

    Gene Cooley

     The link on the Toyota website EARLIER today also linked to something like "other manufacturers". This mentioned the Vibe. It is GONE now afaik.

    Dick 

  •  02-03-2010, 7:09 PM 401455 in reply to 401446

    Re: Toyota problems

    I did find a site that said that the Vibe was included in the recall.  They also said that even though it is essentially a rebadged Matrix that it had been deemed "safe to drive" by "GM".

    It sure was good timing on "GM's" part to already be prepared to offer Toyota owners a special deal on trading in their cars on new GM cars.  Do you think that the dealers will resell them???

    Gene Cooley

  •  02-04-2010, 4:52 AM 401479 in reply to 401389

    Re: Toyota problems

    Doug Gill:

     LaHood's first statment always sounded kind of fishy and more like a personal statment than an official one.

    I don't know much about LaHood, but it seems like he doesn't have too much experience with transportation matters...

    From Ray LaHood's Wikipedia Page 

    His résumé on transport matters is seen as thin by many critics. He did not serve on the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee at the time his selection was announced, although he had in the past. As a member of the House Appropriations Committee he did not work on transportation funding.[

    (yeah, i know Wikipedia isn't the greatest website to quote...)


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  •  02-04-2010, 9:02 AM 401506 in reply to 401479

    Re: Toyota problems

    DrJones_CMR:
    Doug Gill:

     LaHood's first statment always sounded kind of fishy and more like a personal statment than an official one.

    I don't know much about LaHood, but it seems like he doesn't have too much experience with transportation matters...

    From Ray LaHood's Wikipedia Page 

    His résumé on transport matters is seen as thin by many critics. He did not serve on the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee at the time his selection was announced, although he had in the past. As a member of the House Appropriations Committee he did not work on transportation funding.[

    (yeah, i know Wikipedia isn't the greatest website to quote...)

    Well, here's the LaHood fiasco in a nutshell: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Can-Ray-LaHood-and-the-Obama-administration-fairly-regulate-GMs-competitors-83482977.html

    And if you make it through that, you need to have a bit of a laugh about this whole thing ('cuz it's all stomach-churning): TOYOTATHON OF DEATH!!

     


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  •  02-04-2010, 10:52 AM 401521 in reply to 401506

    Re: Toyota problems

    Now, it's the Prius's turn, problems with the antilock brakes.

    Another recall coming.


    They say it's a software glitch.


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  •  02-04-2010, 11:17 AM 401525 in reply to 401521

    Re: Toyota problems

    Updated recall guide for all those effected

    http://www.autoblog.com/toyota_recall/guide

     


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  •  02-04-2010, 3:48 PM 401543 in reply to 401525

    Re: Toyota problems

    Which is the same as Ford is reporting now....see see its not onlyToyota =P
    "If speed kills..then do brakes save lives???"
  •  02-04-2010, 5:03 PM 401552 in reply to 401543

    Re: Toyota problems

    nevermind.

     


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